I am a single mother with 6 children and I have provided care to my Downs Syndrome brother for over 20 years. Being single and having a big family I was looking for a way to make an extra to pay for everyday living expenses, etc.
In February 2006, I was searching the Internet and saw a Creative Concepts of America advertisement for a Red Bull franchise. I contacted them and requested the information. When I spoke with CCA I was told they had an exclusive contract with Red Bull North America (RBNA) to sell the vending machine franchises. I phoned RBNA to verify this information and was told if I wanted to buy any machines it was being handled by CCA exclusively. I was told this was a legitimate business venture and was backed by Red Bull.
I contacted CCA again. Of course you couldn’t buy just one machine you had to buy either 3, 10, 25, etc. I was told the profits on 3 machines would be approximately $7,000 per month since they would be placed in high traffic areas such as airports, gyms, colleges, car dealerships, etc. Wow, what a great income. That would help with all the common necessities of life.
I was given references to call. One reference said he bought 5 machines and paid them off in 10 months with all his profits. When I look at the time frame now you can start to see the deception. If they didn't start selling these machines until November 2005 and it was only March 2006 that would only be 5 months. Another reference told me she made $5,000 in one weekend and that she was going to buy 5 more machines. Haven't been able to get a hold of that person since CCA disappeared. I believe all the references were nothing more than a plant to get people to buy the Red Bull vending machines.
I was told I would have warranty protection, and a theft and vandalism policy on each machine. I was also told these machines would be placed in prime locations such as gyms, airports, car dealerships, etc. I was told we would have protected areas where no one else could place a Red Bull vending machine. Now the final piece of information that made this deal look great was the letter from RBNA that CCA was an exclusive re-seller of Red Bull licensed machines. So we purchased 3 machines. We diligently did our homework and thought with a name like Red Bull we couldn’t go wrong. So I went to the bank and took out a loan with my 2 older children.
CCA filed for bankruptcy. Hundreds of people were out millions of dollars. Although RBNA said they severed their agreement with CCA in April 2006, CCA was still selling Red Bull franchises June 30, 2006. One has to ask why would RBNA allow CCA to continue to sell these fraudulent franchises creating more victims of this scam. That’s what it was a scam.
Some people received their machines, some received a few of their machines, and some did not receive any at all. Keep in mind all these machines had to be paid for in full before they were delivered.
I was PROMISED by a team of Red Bull staff that showed up at my door that I would get help in placing my machines. I was told if there was a location I wanted to secure they would send their "road team" out and secure the locations for me. I gave this so-called "road team" 2 locations and they never, never, never, went out. I asked Red Bull again for help but that request fell on deaf ears. I managed to place one myself after 7 months of sitting in my garage. The second one I placed was stolen a few days after placing it. With no insurance on the machines now, we could not get it replaced or be reimbursed for our loss.
Red Bull does not want to take responsibility for what has happened. Deceptive, deceptive, deceptive.
How can a billion-dollar company like Red Bull enter into a contract with a company like CCA? You would think with the big name of Red Bull and all the attorneys Red Bull has in their employ they would have researched CCA closer. I bet this would never happen in Austria where Red Bull originated from, so how and why did this happen in America?
IS THIS HOW THEY DO BUSINESS IN AUSTRIA?
Seeing Red In California
5 days ago
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WOW I won't drink Red Bull anymore. I hope you get your money back from the scam artists.
I fell for the Red Bull Scam to. We purchased the so-called “Red Bull Franchise” from Creative Concepts of America. There was a letter presented to us from Red Bull North America to CCA confirming their relationship. We called RBNA and confirmed this was a legitimate business venture. This cemented the deal. Big name how could we go wrong.
With our purchase we were given protected territories, warranties, a theft and vandalism policy, and placement of our Red Bull vending machines in high traffic areas. Oh and lets not forget the money. Oh the money we were told we would make in this venture. Profits up to $7,000 a month.
We had 3 machines. We placed them ourselves with no help from anyone. One was stolen and we lost all the cash and all the product that was stocked in it. With pleas to CCA and Red Bull our situation fell on deaf ears. CCA is now bankrupt and RBNA says it is not their responsibility, we are out a lot of hard-earned money each and every month.
This whole business venture has been a joke. Who would ever think such a well known company would ever allow this to happen to so many unsuspecting AMERICANS.
Red Bull needs to take responsibility for what has happened. The owner of Red Bull holds 49 shares in the RB company and is worth 2 billion dollars. Us Americans we are out about 20 million.
Jennifer
Huntington Beach, CA
Go to www.ripoffreport.com and put Red Bull, redbull, or Creative Concepts of America in the search bar to read some of the victims stories.
Creative Concepts of America sold Red Bull vending machine franchises exclusively for Red Bull North America. What clinched our deal was the letter to CCA from RBNA confirming their business relationship.
The machines we purchased has done nothing more then put us in debt for 5 years. We have had a zero profit. There are hundreds of people across the US that have lost their homes, retirements, savings accounts, or gone bankrupt and RBNA just doesn’t care.
We have tried ever avenue that we knew to get RBNA to take their responsibility in this entire venture but they continually say they are not responsible.
The deceptive business practices committed by CCA and RBNA need to be exposed. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT RED BULL AND CCA HAVE DONE TO ALL OF US
Were coming Austria!!!
In October 2005, my husband saw an advertisement by a company named Creative Concepts of America, offering a business opportunity to purchase Red Bull vending machines. He very carefully checked out this opportunity and even conversed with Robert Sorensen, the legal counsel for Red Bull, who told him that the only way to get Red Bull Vending machines was to go through Creative Concepts of America who had sole rights to sell the vending machines.
My husband used his teacher retirement to purchase five (5) machines. After many delays, he did finally receive the machines in January 2006. Although CCA had positive encouragement that the machines would be easy to place and that they should vend 20-25 vends a day on average. My husband has been in vending for over 10 years and understands that this is in no way a guarantee of how many vends a machine would give. He ran into obstacle after obstacle trying to place the machines 'we have a sole agreement with Coke, Pepsi', etc. He was able to place the machines at some hotels, a bowling alley, a commercial college, etc. However, the machines only averaged about 1 vend a day. In April of 2006, Red Bull canceled their contract with CCA. CCA then offered to buy back the machines at a great loss. My husband arranged to ship the machines back to CCA (CCA was to pay for half of the shipping, but they were paying the shipping up front). CCA was to issue him a check for $5000.00 payable within 24 hours from the receipt and inspection of the machines. The remaining balance was to be paid in equal payments of $200.00 per month per machine. The machines were received by CCA by the May 12, 2006 deadline that was called for in the buy back agreement. Red Bull had sent a letter saying that they 'would entertain a buy back' but they would not commit to anything until after the May 12 deadline that CCA had given on their buy back. After many phone calls and a runaround, CCA finally wired $3000.00 to our bank account on or about June 8 or June 9, 2006. This was nearly a month after they were supposed to send us $5000.00. Shortly after this, we were not able to reach anyone at CCA by phone. On June 22, 2006 we finally faxed a letter to them asking what was going on...no calls returned, could not even get a 'live' operator.
On June 29, 2006 we received an email from CCA stating that they were in the first stage of bankruptcy!!! There were hundreds of people all across the USA who had purchased these machines and a lot who 'sold' them back to CCA and now they were going to file bankruptcy six weeks after they received the machines back? We along with hundreds of others filed police reports with the Ft Lauderdale Police Department (where CCA was located). The police report states this was 'theft by deception'. The FBI, the Secret Service and numerous other government agencies have been involved in this case.
Red Bull is denying all responsibility for this situation. They told the BBB that they had a 'hands off relationship' with CCA. I have a copy of their redacted contract with CCA and it looks to me like they were supposed to have a pretty tight reign on CCA. I received an email this evening from Ilene Eskenazi, Esq who states she is general counsel for Red Bull still denying any responsibility for
the deception that Red Bull gave in telling prospective vendors that CCA was reputable and that to get Red Bull vendors, one had to go through CCA as they had sole rights to sell the machines. In this email, she refers to the vendors as
'Creative Concepts Vending Machines'. The machines have the name of Red Bull on them, not Creative Concepts.
Hundreds of people have lost their life savings due to being mislead by Red Bull North America. One lady was a young widow who's husband had died suddenly leaving her with 4-5 children. She used life insurance money to purchase machines thinking she would be able to support her family. She did not even receive all the machines that she paid for.
I would think any reputable company would want to do whatever to keep their good name in the business world. Red Bull refuses to reach any type of amicable
conclusion to this matter. A month ago, Red Bull's attorney, Ilene Eskenazi wanted me to have an "amicable" conversation to conclude this matter,(after I filed a Ripoff Report) but refused to allow the conversation to be recorded. She then told another victim that she had had no contact with anyone in regard to this matter, although I do have a letter from her on RBNA letter head and emails from her.
Deborah Dannheim
PO Box 756
Roscoe, TX 79545
325-766-3799
Please go to www.ripoffreport.com and put Red Bull in the search bar to read some of the victims stories.
Contacts:
Larry Flynn - larryj_flynn@hotmail.com
Mallory Dillon – Legalsvunlimited@aol.com
Wayne and Deborah Dannheim - Ddannheim@aol.com
Frank Welcker – frankhwv@aol.com
Thomas Baverso - TGBAVERSO@aol.com
This is just BS. So are telling me no Austrians were scammed in this deal, just Americans? What is wrong with this picture? I guess it's ok to scam Anericans huh. why don't you guys sue the socks off of Red Bull. I would.
David, you are so right. Just Americans. I don't think the Austrian people would have tolerated a scam like this.
I won't drink Red Bull anymore and I will make sure none of my friends do either. It may not be much out of Red Bull's profits but if enough people in America stop drinking it I am sure they will feel some pain.
Joseph it's nice to know that people will stand up for other people. We all thank you for your comment and your choice not to drink Red Bull anymore.
Yes, thank you, Joseph. I had never drank Red Bull until my husband bought these machines. I figured I would acquire a taste for it, since we would be selling it....Well, I haven't bought one in two years and will likely never buy any ever again!
It left a BAD taste in my mouth, so to speak!
In November of 2005, my husband and I made a decision to start up our own business and buy 3 Red Bull Vending Machines through Creative Concepts of America, which was a“Red Bull Vending Machine Franchise Company”.
As we, ourselves, enjoy the Red Bull product, we thought that purchasing 3 Red Bull Vending machines was a very safe and smart decision… especially considering that this was a Red Bull FRANCHISE.
After doing our homework and speaking with a Red Bull / Creative Concepts representative – Jeffrey Youngbauer—we decided to purchase 3 machines at a cost of $4, 210.00 each. On 11/08/2005, a check in the amount of $12,630.00 was cashed. We received a business packet and 3 Red Bull vending machines shortly thereafter. Creative Concepts / Red bull referred us to a locating service whereby they found (very “shady”) locations for our 3 machines for a fee of approximately $1,200.
The machines failed horribly. Red Bull / Creative Concepts estimated selling an average of 27.6 cans a day (Gross profit of $.75 per can. 3 machines = $62.10/day, $434.70/week). It ended up that we were selling approximately 5 cans per week per machine.
In April of 2006, we received a call from Red Bull / Creative Concepts stating that they would like to extend the offer of buying back the machines because they had “upgraded their machines” to offering 3 products instead of 1. Of course, the buy back included a loss, which was expected. However, after much thought, my husband and I determined that the loss we would suffer if we sold our machines back would be much less than if we decided to keep them. So, we went ahead and agreed to sell back all 3 machines. A contract was signed and all seemed legitimate.
We upheld our end of the bargain and had all 3 machines moved to our garage. We contacted Red Bull / Creative Concepts, who had a moving company come and retrieve them from our garage. The agreement stated that Red Bull / Creative Concepts would buy back 3 vending machines at $2,800.00 per machine. A check for $3,000.00 would be issued once they had the machines in their possession and determined there was no damage. The remaining balance of $5,400.00 would be paid in equal payments within 6 months starting June 1, 2006 (to be automatically deposited).
The $3,000 never materialized. Rather, we received an email from Creative Concepts, declaring that they were in the 1st stages of bankruptcy. As Creative Concepts was a “Red Bull” franchise, we contacted Red Bull directly and let them know what happened. Red Bull admitted to having a relationship with Creative Concepts, but indicated that the relationship was severed once bankruptcy was declared. Red Bull disregarded our losses and completely ignored our continuous complaints and inquiries into the entire situation.
Red Bull is an unethical company, with very unethical business practices.
Sincerely,
Michele and Vincent Wallace
Michele and Vincent thank you for your story.
I was also one of their victims.
bought 6 machines, called their supossed references and used their "professional" locating companies in brower and dade counties in florida only to discover that both, the locating companies and Creative Concepts were a big fraud.
At the end I had to sell all my machines with an average loss of $2,000 per machine investing 4 months of hard work moving the vending machines from place to place trying to at least, get close to the "magical" sell-through numbers that Creative Concepts showed me before buying into their scam.
Complete fraud, to make matters worse, I tried to sell the machines in ebay only to be blocked by red bull. My item was taken out of ebay within minutes of going up for sale.
Stay alert!
RM
Thanks for your story RM. And you couldn't even get your machines sold to recoup your loss. What were they afraid of? Maybe they wouldn't be able to buy those back at their ridiculous insulting price.
I purchased 5 machines from Creative Concepts. I called Red Bull before I sent a check to Creative Concepts to verify if the company was legit and could back up what they had promissed. I told them that I wanted to purchase machines from Red Bull direct if possible. They said I had to go through CCA. I knew I paid a primuim for the machines, however I was paying for the rights to territories. I was also told the average machine sold between 32 unites a day. This was another reason I purchased the machines. I was told I could make my investment back in 6 months. I went through 3 placement companies that could not even plase my machines. There is no way that Red Bull did not know what was going on. They are not that stupid. There is another company that tried the stupid act called ENRON. See where there Excutives are.
Craig, thank you for your story. I was told we would get our original investiment back in 6 to 8 months. Haven't seen a profit since we purchased them.
In the begining of 2006, I made a purchase to buy five RedBull vending machines from Creative Concepts of America and RedBull USA. I put in around $21,000 for this 'business opportunity'
Here is how Creative Concepts of America and RedBull USA deceived me and they lied to me about the following:
1. Potential profits and the length of time to recover my investment.
2. What profits existing customers were making.
3. The availability of good locations.
4. Franchise territories.
They lied to me that each machine can sell at least 30 cans per day and within half year I can recover the investment. They lied to me that existing distributors are making good money because at least 30 cans sold per day per machine. They lied to me that there are many good locations and they have professional people that can help me find to put my machines. I was told they would help me find a ‘locator’ to place the machines. The first person who help place the machines could not do it and the second person had issues finding goo d locations. I was only selling around 3 cans per machine per week – not even close enough to cover the gas to get to them. I lost around $10,000 after selling the machined back to Red Bull.
This vending business scam is a disaster. Many tricks have been played by Creative Concepts of America and RedBull USA to make people believe that it is a good business opportunity. However, in fact, this business is a misfortune for all the people who bought RedBull vending machines.
Creative Concepts of America has filed bankruptcy. I think it is about time RedBull USA to be held responsible for this mess.
Dan
camillus, New York
U.S.A.
Thanks for sharing your story, Dan.
Thank you for your story Dan. I can't agree with you more. Dietrich Mateschitz, Red bulls owner, needs to repay each one of us AMERICANS that fell for this Red Bull Scam.
On September 28, 2005, I used my life savings (I was a college student at the time) to purchase 10 Red Bull Vending Machines manufactured by Royal Vending Machines from Creative Concepts of America, authorized representative of Red Bull Vending North America. These machines had to be authorized by Red Bull because they have the Red Bull logo all over them. And by the way, I was given the Red Bull logo by Creative Concepts of America to use to create stationery to try to secure locations!!! (I would have to assume that the logos were given to Creative Concepts by Red Bull North America since they were their only authorized rep for vending machines. Since I was sold a territory and I still have a machine on location, I will continue to keep this logo to use as I deem necessary in my “protected territory”.
After much distress and waiting, I finally received my machines in December. I was promised the machines by October 15, 2005. During the period I was waiting to receive my machines, I came upon a machine exactly like the ones I was purchasing in my “protected territory”. I immediately called Creative Concepts of America to report this infringement on my contract and was told there was nothing they could do. . .”it was probably purchased on EBAY”, according to Ron Armstrong, Customer Service Representative, who apparently was paid to give lip service to all the many disgruntled vendors who had been scammed. Little did I know that this was just the beginning of my nightmare. After dealing with several location companies all recommended by Creative Concepts, I soon learned that the placement of my machines would, too, be a nightmare. Michael Biggs, the sales rep at CCA who sold me may machines, assured me that I would be able to place them at college and universities, warehouses, carwashes, stores, etc. Not only would I be able to place them in such wonderful places, but he went on to assure me that I would vend at least 27-28 cans per day per machine. (I was lucky to vend 1-2 cans per day and never sold any at some locations). Mr. Biggs also gave me references to call who verified his claims - - I now realize that these people were planted by Creative Concepts. By the way, once I sent my money for the machines, I never once spoke with Mr. Biggs again. . . he would not return my phone calls or answer his cell phone which he gave to me in case I ever needed him for anything!) After using two location companies who were “highly recommend” by CCA we came to realize that these people were no better than the ones we were dealing with at CCA. And after losing more money, we had to start trying to place the machines ourselves.
We called Red Bull North America but would soon learn that all their ties with CCA had been severed. . . I wonder why???? Red Bull surely realized they had made a big mistake and that a lot of people like myself had been bilked out of a whole bunch of money. Of course, CCA went bankrupt leaving us with machines with no product, no locations, no warranties and certainly no help from the big boys at Red Bull, except an insulting offer to buy back machines at half the cost only if they were in brand new condition. Imagine a company as big and as wealthy as Red Bull North America associating themselves with a company like Creative concepts of America and allowing these kind of shady business practices to hurt so many people. Red Bull North America needs to step up to the plate and right this terrible wrong. In the meantime, we refuse to sit idle and not let everyone know about this awful injustice.
Nic
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Contacts:
Larry Flynn – larryj_Flynn@hotmail.com
Mallory Dillon – Legalsvunlimited@aol.com
Wayne and Deborah Dannheim – Ddannheim@aol.com
Frank Welcker – frankwv@aol.com
Thomas Baverso – TGBAVERSO@aol.com
Nic, thank you for your story. I just don't understand how Mateschitz can look at himself in the mirror everyday knowing what he has done to so many.
Why don't you guys call up all the news stations and tell them about this? It bugs me to read about foreign companies scamming Americans.
Hey, Red Bull, it looks like you won't walk away from this scam unscathed after all. You are responsible for allowing Creative Concepts to entice so many people with all their (and your) lies and promises. The word is out. . .Red Bull is a gigantic corporation and they are not at all concerned that their actions devastated and destroyed so many people. But, you will answer for your deceptive business practices. . . it will come back to haunt you and soon!!!
Anonymous, thank you for your comment. I think you hit it right on the nose. Big corporations need to held to the same standards everyone else is.
Wow I've been bloging all day and came across this one. I drink red bull all the time but I'm not drinking it anymore. I will help you people spread the word about red bull.
I purchased 5 machines from Creative Concepts in early January 2006 at the total price of $19,943. I received them in early February intact. I was told that I had exclusive rights to my territory in Tucson, only to find out that no one has a territory, everyone is placed in Tucson and has to fight it out for locations. I was led to believe that I was purchasing a franchise and had every right to what I wished with regards to Red Bull and its logos. It was only later that I found that I was not able to use Red Bull logos on any of my advertisements, business cards, etc. I was given very misleading information regarding the amount of cans one would sell in a day. I was told that a machine should sell no less than 20 cans a day and many sell so many that you make your money back in less than a year.
After waiting 4-5 months for a locating company recommended by CCA to find locations for me, I have found that I barely can make the loan payment on my 5 machines and continue to put my own money into this failing 'franchise'. I feel like I was mislead by CCA and that Red Bull was complicit in this sham as they did not do their homework on this 'shady' company. After almost two years, I received a call from a Red Bull representative offering to buy my machines for $1,500 if they were in pristine condition. If I had followed through on this offer, I would have lost close to $12,000 just so Red Bull North America would have less independent competition when they placed their own machines in town.
Attempts to reach Red Bull for comment have been denied and all contact with them has been even more difficult after the US Secret Service asked me to complete an affidavit regarding Creative Concepts deceptive business practices. Red Bull is just as culpable as they allowed Creative Concepts to sell their brand.
Wes Taylor
The silence from Red Bull is DEAFENING!!!
Wes, thank you for your story. It is still amazing that Red Bull would allow this to go on.
Hey Scammedbyredbull I don't think being silent is going to be helpful. I think it will only make it worse for them.
Thanks for your support, Jamie!
You would think that they would try to issue a rebuttal if they were innocent, now wouldn't they?
I think they are hoping everyone will just go away. Don't think that is going to happen though.
In October of 2005 I ran across a web site describing various business opportunities. One that caught my eye was a RED BULL VENDING PACKAGE. I was familiar with the energy drink and thought that Red Bull was a reputable company as they had been in business several years and were considered to be the #1 selling energy drink on the market. I contacted Creative concepts of North America who was handling these distributorships for Red Bull. After receiving their information package and reviewing it carefully I was contacted by a Creative Concepts Representative. He stated that “business was booming” and over the course of many phone calls I was convinced that it sounded like a good opportunity. The information package touted, among other things: 1. Complete 3 year warranty for machines against defects, materials, parts, service and labor and a 3 year theft and vandalism policy. 2. Protected distribution rights for my territory. 3. Customer Support Program. It also described the “lucrative world” of energy drink vending, describing it as a high growth proven industry and a recession proof business with very tangible tax benefits. Also, the materials described Red Bull as the “biggest threat to coke and Pepsi in the last 40 years” This statement is absolutely erroneous and I doubt that Pepsi or Coke feels very threatened by Red Bull as about 95% of the places I contacted had contracts with either one or the other of these companies! According to him, machines were selling so fast that that most “distributorships were taken up”. My area was still available but probably “wouldn’t be for long”. Much of the projected earnings that he bragged of sounded a little outrageous to me but I was looking to make a little extra money and did not intend for this to be my sole means of income. However, this guy told me that I probably could retire from my current Nursing career! I asked him why Red Bull did not place the machines themselves and he said that Red Bull did not want to hire extra people to place machines and service them. That sounded sensible and reasonable to me. In January of 2006, I used what savings I had in addition to some credit cards to transfer funds in the amount of $12,570.00 to Creative Concepts. After I received the machines, I spent days leading to weeks, then months trying to place the machines…all to no avail. I was dumfounded to learn that just about every location I visited had contracts with either Pepsi or Coke. I went to hotels, motels, colleges, malls, factories, gyms, office buildings, rental centers, car dealers, bowling alleys, roller skating rinks and just about every kind of business you can imagine. Curiously, many of them told me that they had already been contacted by Red Bull in the past about placing a machine and had turned them down. I finally found one apartment complex willing to let me put a machine out by their picnic area. Exasperated, I finally contacted a Red Bull representative to hear of any ideas he would have in helping to locate my machines. I was quite taken when he jokingly said to me: “Yeah, they (meaning Creative Concepts) sell you the machines but they don’t tell you that you won’t find anywhere to put them”. At that time I was very confused as to why Red Bull would allow a company to sell their machines when they KNEW that people had very little, if any, chance of securing locations for them! I think I realized at that time that this whole scenario was corrupt and that Red Bull had been involved in some kind of scheme with this Creative Concepts Company. I also found out shortly after I received my machines that the affiliation between Red Bull and Creative Concepts was dissolved. I was contacted by both for buy back programs and eventually sold the machines back to Red Bull for $1700.00 for the 2 new machines and $1500.00 for the used machine for a total loss of $7,750.00. It was very unfortunate for me to lose this money but I have been able to maintain and pay off my credit cards by working a few extra hours at the job I was told I may be able to retire from! I know that others have invested much much more and that it has affected their lives in profound ways and will continue to do so for many years to come, possibly their whole life. Red Bull acted in a very fraudulent manner and should be held accountable for involving themselves in business practices that leave so many people bankrupt, destitute and broken hearted. They agreed to be in a partnership with a company that was selling machines (with the Red Bull name emblazoned all over it) full well knowing that you CANNOT FIND PROFITABLE LOCATIONS FOR THESE MACHINES!!!!!!! Red Bull is a multimillion dollar company and should make restitution to all who fell victim to their scam.
Thank you for your story anonymous.
I'm not going away until I have my money... plus some
I don't think many of us are. I want to be compensated for our loss. That is not to much to ask from such a billion dollar company is it?
I have been reading the blogs on the Internet about how we were scammed. I am spreding the word. None of my friends will be drinking Red Bull either.
Wow what a trip. I was reading about the owner of Red Bull. He has lots of money. Have you guys contacted the news yet? This should be on CNN or Fox, or one of those big ones.
Hip Hop, thanks for reading. Just spread the word "BOTCOTT RED BULL" if you will.
It seems one hand did not know what the other was doing. Doesn't say much for this billion dollar company.
My cousin owns a Fortune 500 Company with a health club inside. I called him and asked that he remove the Red Bull line from his place and replace it with some other product. After I told him the story, he had his manager remove all Red Bull. . .just one small step toward righting this wrong. If you know someone who sells or promotes Red Bull, let them know what they have done to so many Americans and the horrible impact it has had on lives and futures. You will be surprised how many people will feel your pain and want to help.
That is great anonymous. I think once the public starts hearing about the Red Bulling vending scam and what has happened to hundreds of Americans they will do the same. Spread the word and thanks.
Like many others I was looking for a business to start to supplement my income. On October 2005 I came across CCA who claimed was the only company offering exclusive rights to sell Red Bull through their exclusive vending machines.
Jeff Youngbauer,CCA's representative, quickly sent me out a distributorship package explaining all the details, who also stated that this was such a ground floor opportunity. Because of the $23,000 investment that was needed to start this ground floor opportunity I gave it some thought.
I contacted Red Bull and inquired about CCA. Red Bull told me that CCA was the only authorized distributor of Red Bull vending machines. I grew with excitement because I trusted a multi million dollar company that endorsed their sole distributor of vending machines.
On April 2006, I refinanced my home to finance this disaster that Red Bull and CCA created. On April 17,2006, I placed my order for 5 machines and 1800 cans of Red Bull and quickly wire transfered to CCA $23,000.
On April 24,2006 I received an email from CCA stating that, as of April 14,2006, CCA would no longer be distributing Red Bull vending machines. On April 17,2006, when I purchased my machines, CCA never told me this information. I contacted Jeff Youngbauer to get an explanation. He proceeded to tell me that, according to Red Bull, CCA had sold enough vending machines, but that my order was ok.
Feeling uneasy about this situation, on May 22, 2006, I sent a letter to CCA wishing to cancel my order with a full refund. Suni Perez(Customer Support) with CCA contacted me stating that CCA would honor my cancellation with a full refund made in three equal payments.
I NEVER RECEIVED MY REFUND FROM CCA!!!!!!!
Red Bull North America should be held responsible for the deceitful business practices that CCA was participating in. After all, Red Bull did endorse CCA as the only authorized distributor of Red Bull vending.
Tony....california
Thanks for your story Tony. Red Bull needs to step up and do the right thing.
For sake of time, I will touch on the specifics of my disasterous loss with the Creative Concepts of America/Red Bull North America affiliation.
Back in August 2005 I was looking for a franchise or business opportunity to add to my real estate business. After searching through franchise business opportunity sites such as franchise.com and franchisegator.com, I saw an opportunity to purchase Red Bull Vending Machines. I entered my contact information to one of the online inquiry forms and was soon contacted by an individual at a company called Creative Concepts of America. After a long conversation with a salesperson named Michael Biggs at the office, I decided to have some further due dilegence done. My business counselor called Red Bull North America and discussed the vending program and was told that it was a legitimate relationship that RBNA had with Creative Concepts of America. He was also told that they were the exclusive company to sell the Red Bull Branded Machines. On 9/21/05 I drove to Ft. Lauderdale to meet with Creative Concepts of America, I was given contracts to be 1 of 2 distributors in Hillsborough, Pinellas and Osceola Counties in Florida. I paid $6,584.00 USD on my American Express and wired the balance of $59,242.00 USD to have my 22 machines and product delivered to my predetermined locations (which I was later told by the shipping company that this was logistically impossible and they had to go to 1 central location). After I was provided with that information, I called Creative Concepts and was told they would reimburse me $75.00 USD for each machine for a total of $1650 plus my travel expenses to their office. To this day, I have not received any of those monies. I should have realized a problem when the company did not charge FL sales tax since I was a Florida business.
I also paid an additional $5280.00 USD to Advance Placement Services out of Chicago to assist in placing my vending machines. Ironically none of the locations (schools, universities, sports complexes, etc) were as promised by the people at Creative Concepts due to Coke or Pepsi already having rights to these locations. I was the lucky recipient of absolutely terrible locations. I even had some locations refuse delivery of the machine due to the size! The business owners claimed that the placement company told them it was going to be a smaller machine or other lies. My frustration began to mount with this venture. Nothing was seamless or easy after I signed the contract.
On 3/26/06 I had a Vending Machine broken into, damaged and all monies stolen. I called Creative Concepts for the correct process to follow since I allegedly had an included theft and vandalism warranty. I have emails saved from their support stating exactly what to do, I provided them with a police report, photos and the necessary paperwork. I was contacted by a Nick at tech support and given a timeframe when a tech would be out to review and get the machine repaired. The machine was never repaired, no one sent out and became a total loss.
After none of the claims that Creative Concepts had made to me regarding the success of the venture even came close to reality, I began attempting to sell the machines. I have a filled in earnings estimate by Michael Biggs and Andrew Kennedy from CCA stating conservative earnings of $178K in my first year. I obviously did not believe the figure but did see an opportunity to fill an unsatisfied need by having an energy drink vending business. This was around the time I received a letter from RBNA dated 4/26/08 stating 'the affiliation between Creative Concepts of America and Red bull North America, Inc, ended on April 8, 2006. The letter also claimed that the local distributor would help in placement of any machines. This DID NOT happen, even after discussing options with local distributor, Anchor Distribution. I was in contact with a gentleman, Chris Weatherford, the non-traditional account manager at RBNA to help me out of the situation. He put me in contact with Jeff Walls of Anchor distribution - the actual Red Bull Distributor in my area. Jeff agreed to purchase my machines for 1/2 of what I paid! I had no choice but to accept the offer due to the lack of revenue being generated by the machines.
After CCA filed bankruptcy, all of the pieces of the puzzle began to fall into place. Andrew Kennedy was the GM of the office, although his mother was the actual front woman for CCA. They lived in a million dollar plus home, purchased with the monies rendered from people like myself and were neighbors with Dwayne Johnson (the Rock). The placement company they would recommend was operated by another one of their family members.
I lost over $80,000 USD (after selling my machines to the local distributor)when you take the machines, placement costs, truck rental, truck payments to move the machines, storage unit charges and other miscellaneous expenses by trusting Red Bull North America did their due dilegence in selecting Creative Concepts of America to act as an agent for them by allowing them to sell Red Bull Branded Vending Machines in the United States to unsuspecting entrepreneurs such as myself and countless others that have been burned and lost everything. RBNA has sued many over potential infringements and claims that there was no knowledge of problems with CCA? I find it hard to believe a multi-billion dollar company had no idea that a small office in Ft. Lauderdale Florida was using the Red Bull name and tarnishing it by scamming and fraudulantly selling dreams to unsuspecting people.
I'm not going to give my sob story, my hardships or my personal problems caused by this nightmare. I'm sure if you are reading this, you had the same ordeal as me and faced a challenging time in your life that you may or may not have recovered from. I'm not sitting with my hand out waiting for payment, I do believe that RBNA should make things right with those who bought into an idea to be an EXCLUSIVE RED BULL VENDING DISTRIBUTOR FOR SPECIFIC AREAS IN THE NATION. I have a contract stating I was '1 of 2' exclusive distributors for Hillsborough, Pinellas and Osceola Counties in Florida. I also have the exact same contracts that were sold to other individuals in my 'PROTECTED TERRITORY' stating they are '1 of 9' distributors in Hillsborough County Florida.
The US Secret Service, the US Post Office, the Attorney General and countless agencies have been involved with this case. It has been going on for over 2 years. I'm tired of playing the 'we didn't know or we're not responsible game.' WE NEED TO GET THE MEDIA INVOLVED NOW!
Tgbaverso, thank you for your story. You have had a tremendous loss. I agree with you. Red Bull needs to take responsibility.
I was looking for a Franchise opportunity. When I saw Redbull, I was excited because I knew Redbull was a leading product in the energy drink sector. CCA was in charge of distributing franchises for Redbull in my area. I invested $27,000.00 to buy area rights, 5 vending machines & Redbull product to start my business.
I recieved my machines & product. Thats when I began to have problems. I had trouble locating my machines, contacting CCA, or getting any help that was promised by them, to promote my business. It has been 2 years, I have placed 3 of 5 machines and have made about $1000.00 in profit. That is $500.00 a year. So I should recoup my investment in about 54 years! I was lead to believe this was a lucrative business and that I would be supported and lead to success by CCA & Redbull. Instead, I have lost money. CCA is no longer supporting Redbull, or me, as was promised. I was mislead, dropped by CCA and Redbull. I have lost a substantial amount of money & time because of this, what I believe to be a scam, by CCA and Redbull.
Sincerely
Frank
Burbank, California
Thanks for sharing your story Frank. Yeah those "exclusive territories" we all bought. What a joke that was.
well i guess my story won't be any differnert than all the other nightmares on here about red bull. i also bought 5 machines investing over 27000.00 and more in intrest. i also was told i would have a protected territory and i have to keep buying more machines every six month in order to keep my protected terrritory. and i never got one of them located and i paid my share of locaters to place them. i all seem like a scam. and when they came for the machines with that joke of a buy back. i over heard the them talkikng about two of the machines i had and they said the could still sell them. and i had been ripped off in the whole thing and they were just tring to get this behind there company. and to we have no chance of getting anything from red bull . because they were a victim just like us. what a joke! I told them that the only victim in this is us and they said we should have know better. i wanted to take my sleghammer and beat the machinces to peices but it was not worth it. like i told them we well see what a judge and a jury says. and i hope we get our money back i'm not looking for anything more than what i lost. and be done with this all. and move on to something else. i hate the fact that they can sponser a crappy event instead of taking care of the people that beleived in them. not some side show. and i will never drink another red bull.
You are right Matt. Mateschitz seems to have a lot of money to put on all kinds of events but when it comes to the hundreds of scammed AMERICANS he doesn't care. No sweat off his brow. He made money off of each one of us just like CCA did. That's what greed does to people.
Thanks, Matt...I'm sure the victim, Dietrich, cries all the way to the bank. The nerve!!!
The more I read, the more I see how involved Red Bull was with this scam from the very beginning. The guys at Red Bull are no better than the sleaze balls at Creative Concepts. Maybe they will all have the opportunity soon to stand before a judge and explain how they managed to put together such a sleazy deal!
We all believe Red Bull had a very big hand in this right from the beginning. Anyone that would do this to another human being is truly sick and unethical.
Red Bull is run like all criminal organizations are run. They hire front companies to bilk victims out of their savings and to provide legal cover, then they crush those front companies when the heat is on, like they did with CCA. They bribe politicians, and support "youth oriented" sports to win public support. Remember the old saying "Christmas is only for little kids and cops". Red Bull seems to understand that. But it will catch up with them. Won't it be exciting to see the RBNA headquarters emptied out one day with half a dozen Red Bull employees in handcuffs as they are paraded by in a perp walk!
I agree anonymous. I think Red Bull is more responsible than CCA. They were referring people to CCA even on the day they ended their contract. As bad as CCA was, IMO, they were a victim of Red Bull's greed, also.
Paulrevere I couldn't agree with you more. They are all criminals. You cannot tell me that Red Bull had no idea what CCA was doing. Our evidence tells a different story. A story that will get national attention soon.
Why did Red Bull continue to allow CCA to sell these phony franchises after they ended their contract with them? I am sure Red Bull knew this so why didn't they get their high priced legal counsel to stop it. My guess is they wanted to suck more money out of AMERICANS.
Anonymous you make a very good point. Where was their high priced counsel? And why did Mateschitz allow this to go on?
Look out Red Bull. . . your name is losing its' wonderful reputation. You can't allow this injustice to continue without suffering the consequences. Several of my friends have already heard about your "scam" with regard to CCA and vending machines. They are now drinking anything but Red Bull! Word travels. . .
It may take some time but they will lose their reputation.
Thanks for your support, anonymous!
Red Bull, don't you care about your REPUTATION? Is falling sales going to be what gets your attention?
Step up to the plate, Dietrich...
Red Bull dumps MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of dollars into themselves (advertising, etc).... yet seem to disregard what is really important and what really makes a company powerful -- compassion. I hope that Red Bull is exposed for what they are: EVIL!
Oh I think it will just take a little time and some media attention to draw Americans to what has taken place here.
You are so right "seeing red in california"! Red Bull thought this would just go away quietly and we would all just lick our wounds and move on. . . think again. We should not and will not ever quit until they admit they are at fault and agree to some kind of settlement. Soon their actions will be surfaced by the media for all of the world to see.
They will have to respond to all of our DOCUMENTED claims. I, and many others, have been waiting for this day for 3 years.
Sheryle, Red Bull needs to step up and take care of everyone that was hurt in the deal Red Bull had with CCA.
You are so right, Sheryl.....RB knows I'm not giving up....they gave me the brush off the end of May and then wanted to have an amicable conversation to end the matter after I filed a Ripoff Report....but they refused to have a phone conversation recorded...wonder why???
Scammed by Red Bull, if they had no liability in this situation they would be more than happy to talk with you under any circumstances. They are fully aware that they made a terrible mistake when they partnered with the crooks at Creative Concepts of America. Now they must pay for their lack of good business practices. . . shame on them for not thoroughly investigating these individuals before attaching the Red Bull name and logo to the vending machines that we all purchased in good faith. We must all be diligent in our efforts to continue to inform America and the world of what Red Bull did to us!!!
Hey my friend sent me this link to read. This is pretty shitty to be scammed by Red Bull. We are organizing so none of us drink Red Bull anymore.
Go get um.
Nasty, nasty company Red Bull seems to be. I would like to know how the hell this company was ever allowed to do business in the US.
Our government needs to get off their butt and stop things like this from happening.
I pick up your motto, boycott Red Bull, yeah.
I agree Sheryle. You will never get me to believe with all the big shots Red Bull has in their employ that they did not check out CCA. I think they knew exactly what was going on.
Anonymous keep spreading the word. That is what we need.
You are so right, Sheryle....thanks for your support!
Scammedbyredbull
Can't wait to see this make headlines. Down with Red Bull. Boycott Red Bull.
Hey I am getting the word out for you guys. Hope it helps a little or even a lot.
Shazam......I would slam them to hell and back.
Hey you people need a lot of media attention here. You need to let everyone know what happened here.
It's coming Madman, it's coming.
I would like to know how the hell this company was ever allowed to do business in the US.
Our government needs to get off their butt and stop things like this from happening.
By the way I use your motto and tell everyone to boycott Red Bull.
Anonymous keep spreading the word. That is what we need.
Hey have you guys talked to the unethical owner of Red Bull? How come he hasn't taken care of this?
I read about him on the Internet. Bet he is just another greedy businessman who doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself.
Sue the socks off the B-----d
In case anyone out there is so desperate to place machines, there is another scam out there. . . it wasn't enough that they did this to us once but now, Jack Baumann who was with Coastal Placement (in the same building with CCA) claims to be able to place your machines in Walmarts. Apparently alot of people, out of desperation, fell for this. I had the great fortune of speaking with this lowlife when I was trying every avenue to place my machines. We, of course, paid Coastal alot of money to never get a single location. He got very ugly with me over the phone a couple of times. However, when my husband called to let him know that he was on his way to Florida to have a "discussion" with him, miraculously we got a refund. Anyway, I think his website is Exclusivevending.com and he has moved to Israel!! Imagine that he had to leave the United States because he hooked up with a company from Austria! And, by the way, I will never stop spreading the word. . . Red Bull scammed alot of innocent Americans and now they are trying to ignore us! We won't quit until every website, every news agency, every television station, and everyone everywhere has heard our story!!
Sheryle, thinks for that information. I don't know if anyone knew about him.
So he moved to Isreal huh? Maybe Mateschitz will have him do the same scam there.
Jack Baumann did find my husband a couple of hotels to place the machines....but, they didn't make any money, of course....AND Creative Concepts refunded his money!! They had a really weird way of doing business!
Scammedbyredbull
I can tell you that Jack Baumann was and still is a crook just like his cronies at Creative Concepts. And I believe they were all in the same office. . .Ron Armstrong who was the "customer service rep" at CCA connected us with Jack Baumann. According to Armstrong, Baumann was going to get us all kinds of corporate locations. What a joke!!! He got mad because we questioned some of the locations he suggested. . . a motel in the worst part of town imaginable, another motel that housed drug addicts, and a truck stop that was almost out of business due to a bigger and better one down the road (of course, he couldn't get us the good truck stop.) He became very angry and accused us of questioning his knowledge about placing vending machines when we refused some of these locations. Just more of the same. . . Red Bull allowed crooks and lowlifes to promote their vending business and it blew up in their face. They just need to admit their gross error in judgement and pay the price!!! We must all continue to get the word out. . . boycott Red Bull until they pay up.
I read some of your stories on unhappy franchisee. Man this sucks people. Why don't you go on tv and tell everyone. That SOB that owns red bull needs to be brought down a few pegs.
Lowlifes, I like that term and it seems to fit. Lowlifes cheat people out of their money.
Hey I am going to see, when school starts about getting this story into our paper. There are a lot of teens that drink Red Bull and I am sure when they hear this they won't drink it anymore either.
Just a word of encouragement to all those scammed by Red Bull and Creative Concepts. . . .we will continue to pursue justice until justice prevails. We must continue to make everyone everywhere aware of Red Bull's gross negligence in their pursuit of vending. We must never quit. . . in the end Red Bull will own up to their involvement in this horrific "business opportunity" and they will be forced to make amends to the many, many Americans who were unjustly scammed out of their hard earned money.
I agree anonymous. Every American needs to know just what Red Bull and CCA did to all of us. We are actively pursing this each and every day. None of us will rest, we won't go away, until Red Bull pays each and ever victim of this scam.
My husband and I wanted to find a way to bring in a little more money each month and a way for me to quit my job that stressed me out to no end. We looked at Franchises and thought we found the perfect one…Red Bull vending machines. Red Bull had started becoming really popular and we thought they were a reputable company so we pursued our investigation into a Red Bull Vending Franchise.
Creative Concepts of America (CCA) along with Red Bull North America (RBNA) provided false and ambiguous information that lured us into buying their vending business franchise opportunity with protected territories. We purchased 10 Red Bull branded machines for $42085.00 from (CCA) using our savings and were told we would own a franchise and have protected territories. The only reason we entered into this agreement was because Red Bull North America (RBNA) assured us when we called their consumer affairs department in March of 2006 at 310.393.4647 (to verify the agreement between Creative Concepts and RBNA), that everything was legit and CCA was the “only Red Bull Machine Representative” and they had an “exclusive agreement”. If we wanted to buy Red Bull machines, we had to do so through CCA. They not only confirmed everything but also encouraged us to buy the franchise because Red Bull was the most popular energy drink and we would definitely make money. There is also a letter from RBNA to Andrew Kennedy of CCA, dated 1/1/06 (cc Gary Smith and Robert Sorensen) and it stated, “You can inform your potential distributors that we have entered into a formal “buy/sell” agreement with your company.” It also stated, “Allow this letter to serve as confirmation of the relationship between Red Bull North America, Inc, and Creative Concepts of America, Inc.” Had RBNA, not told us what they did and also provided it in writing, we would’ve never done business with CCA. We were ripped off by RBNA and CCA!! Not only did we believe Red Bull North America, we were also given references to call. These people all were making crazy money and were going to buy more machines! LIES.
Apparently on April 24, 2006, CCA would no longer be distributing Red Bull vending machines….we received our machines in mid May of 2006…..after ties were supposedly severed between RBNA and CCA.
We received a letter from Red Bull North America and in the letter here is what it states about placement:
“Placement – Red Bull distributors understand the local market and can help direct you to key locations, in some cases using their relationships to help you place your equipment.”
We also received information from Mr. Jim Murphy, Director, Non-traditional On-Premise, Red Bull North America, Inc; and he is aware of all the details regarding Creative Concepts (and the Red Bull vendors that were dealing with CC) and advised us to reach out to our distributor. We never received ANY help from our distributor…just more stress and heartache from dealing with a bunch of liars.
We were promised locations at colleges, airports, convention centers, etc.
CCA made empty promises and this Red Bull was aware of all of this information. Now CCA is no longer here to adhere to their part of the deal so Red Bull should do something about it but they have done nothing to right this wrong.
Red Bull North America mentioned a buy-back program to most of the other vendors but this was never officially offered to us. I still have the saved website pages CCA and Red Bull advertised this “Franchise Opportunity”. Hopefully one day we will get some restitution from Red Bull.
We were able to place a few machines at locations but none profitable. One machine was smashed and another machine has been broken into several times but there was no one to help replace the parts (for our one year warranty). The other half of the machines are sitting in our garage taking up space.
How can Red Bull being the billion dollar company they are just ignore all of us American people that were robbed and lied to? Having such a huge name, you would think more research would have been conducted by RBNA before going into business with CCA. However, I guess they are equally as deceptive.
Lederhos, thank you for your story. Seems all ahve the same theme. We were all scammed by Red Bull and CCA.
Red Bull IS just as deceptive as Creative Concepts, if not more.
They should take the high road and make this right with all of us.
My husband lost his teacher retirement because of the endorsement of Red Bull of Creative Concepts.
Scammedbyredbull
I know that there are many, many more stories that have not yet been told on this blog about the heartaches caused by RBNA and CCA. The nightmare continues and Red Bull continues to refuse to do the right thing. . .but we will continue our fight as long as necessary! We will keep our story alive. . . forever!!!!
Sheryle your are right. There is a list of 900 AMERICANS that bought into this scam. Of course Red Bull will not do the right thing. This is just like a robbery. Old man Mateschitz only cares about his Euros.
I didn't know there were 899 other Americans hurt by this scam. . .it is just heart breaking to hear all the stories and how people are struggling to survive after they put all their faith and all their money into this "business opportunity". I know our own story and how my son lost his life savings and also made a loan that he is struggling to pay back. And then to know that Red Bull fought to keep us from having any success with the machines. . . how low can a multi-billion dollar company go to make a few more bucks or euros from the small business investor???
It continues to anger me and sadden me to think that they can even look at themselves in the mirror knowing the grief that so many are suffering because of their immoral and illegal business practices. Justice will be served either here on this earth or at the gates of hell!!!! You better own up Red Bull!!! The man upstairs is not sleeping!!!!
I still say when the word gets out, and it is starting to Red Bull will not be liked. There are just so many other energy drinks others can buy. People I have talked to said it won't bother them at all to switch.
You are right, Sheryle....how do these people look at themselves in the mirror? Do they not have a conscience? They will one day pay for this....it may not be monetary, but they will pay.
However, we will not stop fighting for this wrong to be righted by Red Bull North America.
Wake up Dietrich!
ScammedbyRedBull
Red Bull is scum and I will never, ever drink that shit again.
Here are some interesting articles about Red Bull on how they can be detrimental to your health (increase risk of stroke)...
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/red-bull-it-promises-energy-but--doesnt-mention-sticky-blood-899614.html
http://news.aol.com/health/article/energy-drink-raises-stroke-risk/134824?icid=100214839x1207877866x1200414298
ScammedbyRedBull
Fox News just recently did a segment on energy drinks and, of course, Red Bull was included. They discussed the dangers of mixing Red Bull with alcohol. . . as most of you probably know, college kids are mixing it with their favorite liquor. It gives them so much energy that sometimes they do not realize they are intoxicated. I am in the process of emailing Fox News to tell them I saw the story and share our story with them, again!!!
That sounds great anonymous. Thank you for your support.
What BS man. Down with Red Bull. Why doesn't that damn foreigner pay up? He is making millions on us Americans.
Thank you for your comment. Yes, Mr. Mateschitz does make a fortune on people in our country. It will be out soon and the public will know just what has gone on.
We're moving along here. Look out Red Bull. Your bull won't stand anymore you rip off artist.
I like that anonymous. "Rip Off Artists." LOL
That must be how they do business in Austria. Tell the damn foreigner to go home and stay there. He doesn't deserve to be among Americans.
I love that anonymous. I think they should stop all his business here. He is just another ---- that takes advantage of people.
Funny how they have worked so hard to keep us out of the market to. We were supposed to get our product at cost from their distributors. Ha that is so laughable. They charge more then some stores do. Just more lies from Red Bull.
WOW, I read the article in the Santa Monica Daily Press today. Great story. I hope Mateschitz rots in hell.
Hey CTB wasn't that a great story. Here is the link for anyone that has not read it yet.
http://www.smdp.com/site/archives/100308.pdf
There are more to come. And they will keep coming until Mateschitz steps up to the plate on this one.
Thanks for posting the link, Seeing Red....I was thinking we should do that!
ScammedbyRedBull
Hey Scammed we have a comment in the Santa Monica Daily Press today to. It may take some time but everyone will know how we were all scammed.
http://www.smdp.com/site/archives/100408.pdf
The story in the Santa Monica Daily Press is just the beginning. The truth about Red Bull is out for all of America and the world to see. . . and there is more to come. We will all continue to fight this until justice is served. In the end, the big boys at Red Bull will have to make restitution for the theft, lies, and ultimate destruction of so many lives.
Sheryl, thanks for your comment. There has been to many lies and deception here by both Red Bull and CCA. What goes around comes around. I do believe in Karma.
Keep the stories going. It may take a little while but everyone will know one day how many lives were destoryed.
I'm hoping AP or one of the major news programs will pick this up...
Thanks for your support!
ScammedbyRedBull
Well they just might when they see that other papers are reporting what has happened.
Hey everyone. Just want to tell you we are all still hard at work. Just wait till this goes national. Mateschitz can take his Red Bull back to his own country.
Thank you anonymous for your support. Lets keep getting the word out there and who knows maybe Mateschitz will take his product back to his homeland.
Keep pushing forward.
Everytime I walk in my garage and see the cases of expired Red Bull, I am even more inspired to see this fight thru to the end. We will continue until every major newspaper, television station, and other media has exposed the truth about Red Bull and their evil plan to rob us of our futures. They are no better than the thieves on Wall Street and deserve to spend time paying for their deceptive business practices. Mateschitz and Red Bull, we will fight on until this nightmare is addressed and resolved.
Sheryled I think you hit it right on the head. Red Bull is no better than Wall Street. It is ashamed everyone is still losing money in this scam and all the while Mateschitz is getting richer.
Keep telling those reporters what has happened.
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